And lastly tonight a Special Comment on why we are here. Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space. And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter. And all the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and — as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul — two more in the Towers. And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors. I belabor this to emphasize that, for me… this was, and is, and always shall be, personal. And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft", or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here — is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante — and at worst, an idiot — whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.

However. Of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast — of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds… none of us could have predicted… this:

Five years later this space… is still empty.

Five years later there is no Memorial to the dead.

Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.

Five years later this country’s wound is still open.

Five years… later this country’s mass grave is still unmarked.

Five years later… this is still… just a background for a photo-op.

It is beyond shameful.

At the dedication of the Gettysburg Memorial — barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field, Mr. Lincoln said "we can not dedicate - we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract." Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice. Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We can nto dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground." So we won’t. Instead they bicker and buck-pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they’re doing — instead of doing any job at all. Five years later, Mr. Bush… we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir — on these 16 empty acres, the terrorists… are clearly, still winning. And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.

And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation. There is, its symbolism — of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution. The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it… was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.

Those who did not belong to his party — tabled that.

Those who doubted the mechanics of his election — ignored that.

Those who wondered of his qualifications — forgot that.

History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government, by its critics. It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation’s wounds, but to take political advantage. Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people. The President — and those around him — did that.

They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused; as appeasers; as those who, in the Vice President’s words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists." They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken… a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated Al-Qaeda as much as we did. The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had ’something to do’ with 9/11, is "lying by implication." The impolite phrase, is "impeachable offense."

Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space… and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country. Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11. Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible — for anything — in his own administration.

Yet what is happening this very night?

A mini-series, created, influenced — possibly financed by — the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes. The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option. How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death… after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections… how dare you or those around you… ever "spin" 9/11.

Just as the terrorists have succeeded — are still succeeding — as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero… So too have they succeeded, and are still succeeding — as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans. This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney’s continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.


And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street." In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm. Suddenly his car — and only his car — starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man’s lights go on. As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced. An "alien" is shot — but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help. The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials areseen, manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there’s no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it’s themselves." And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight: "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices - to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own — for the children, and the children yet unborn."

When those who dissent are told time and time again — as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus — that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American… When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"… look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:

Who has left this hole in the ground?

We have not forgotten, Mr. President.

You have.

May this country forgive you.


- Keith Olberman

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"The hegemonistic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the human species"
- Hugo Chavez

Evo prvo sam kontao da ne stavim ovaj link (da opet ne bi pocela nepotrebna prica o 'politizaciji') - medjutim, kad bolje razmislim radi se o novijoj istoriji planete...
Tu istoriju je izmedju ostalog 'krojio' i pisac ove knjige:
"Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" - John Perkins.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm

bravo Mirone!

takodjer, za one sto citaju engleski, strogo preporucujem da procitate i njegovu knjigu koju je Miron najavio, "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" - John Perkins.

Danasnje stanje svijeta ce vam se dosta pojasniti.

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"The hegemonistic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the human species"
- Hugo Chavez

citat od Maggie:

Ja zalim civile i sve one koji svakodnevno ginu za necije ciljeve, bez obzira gdje oni bili.

JA Sep 11 ne gledam kao politicki dan ni u kojem smislu. I odbijam da ga tako gledam, bez obzira sta neko drugi mislio.

Gledam ga kao jedan tuzan dan, kada je 3000 hiljade neduznih ljudi izgubilo zivote.

Sjecam se atmosfere tog dana, panike u svacijim ocima, nevjerice. sjecam se kako smo sestra i ja sjedile na kaucu i gledale prve vijesti, onaj dim nad New York-om, neka nelagoda i strah. Da prozivim jos 5 zivota mogla bih bez tog osjecaja.

Pokusala sam skrenuti paznju na kojem smo podforumu, ali se malo previse oko politike ovdje vrti
Onako realno, heb'o off-topics, ali mi zao da ne vidim suosjecanja i ljudskosti u dosta ljudi....Uhvatiti se Americke politike i onog majmuna Busha-a, ovdje - i na ovakvoj temi, meni je bezzeze.
Svakom je svoja nevolja najteza, al' ako izgubimo osjecaj za tudju, onda smo za baciti (moje misljenje).

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"Nema ljepše nade od one što je nikla iz tuge
i nema ljepših snova od onih što ih raða bol."

citat od TigricaX:

Svakom je svoja nevolja najteza, al' ako izgubimo osjecaj za tudju, onda smo za baciti (moje misljenje).

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"The hegemonistic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the human species"
- Hugo Chavez

neki dan ja u autobusu .... i raspravljaju sofer i putnici o teroristima ....


i pitam ja, karem: meni nije jasno sta hoce ovi teroristi? oni nesto hoce, ta ne rade ovo iz zajebancije. pitam ja sta mi mozemo uraditi pa da nas ovi ostave na miru?

kaze zenska, amerikanka: hoce da mi njih ostavimo na miru.

kazem ja: ok, ako je to problem onda ga lako mozemo rjesiti. ostavimo ih na miru, i oni ce nas takodje ostaviti na miru.

pogodi kakva je bila reakcija sugovornika? znas kakva - nikakva. niko nije reko, pa i jest vala ako vec nema druge sto se mi onda ne kanemo arapskih zemalja i oni ce se nas kanuti. niko. oni bi se dakle jebali a da im ne udje. amerikanci su generalno plemenit narod, i stvarno ne vole niciju muku .... istina ziva .... ali su takodje opranih mozgova tako da nisu u stanju uopste da vide tudju muku. meia ih bombarduje pranjem mozga svaki dan i nije ni cudo da ne kontaju stvari.



e sad da mi ne bi neki pripisali da potcjenjujem zrtve u americi - absolutno ne. mislim da sam jedan od rijetkih koji je plako kad su zgrade pale. gledo sam to kroz prozor ofica i plako sam ko dijete. sjecam se da sam govori u stilu: ljudi su unutra, boze sacuvaj ........
to je tragedija koju ne zelim ni dusmanima da se dogodi, vjerovo ili ne .....

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kad ce mostar mama?

*postoji informacija (ne znam kolko je tacna, ima li iko da potvrdi) da je u iraku dosad ubijeno 200 hiljada ljudi.

halo - 200 hiljada. ljudi.


200 hiljada ljudi pobijeno.

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kad ce mostar mama?

Tana,

mislim da je ta cifra ukupna cifra u svim americkim raspirivanjima demokratije u toj zemlji...
medjutim u zadnje tri godine dakle odkad je poceo oruzani otpor okupaciji:

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Neki dan sam cito na internetu da je napravljen nakav sistem da se moze razgovarati sa visine od 10000 metara mobitelom . Onda lagano pomislih pa kako su oni komunicirali sa familijama iz aviona kao sto je prikazano na onom toboze istinitom dokumentarcu
Pa koga oni mahnitim prave .
Tigrice , za toleranciju se obrati papi

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Loose Change

Pogledajte, ok dokumentarac.

Pokazuje 9/11 u mnogo drugacijem svijetlu.

Loose Change je strava film i nema sanse da ce onaj ko ga pogleda moci i dalje vjerovat u "zvanicnu verziju" koju je objavila ova Administracija

Evo linka:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726

Ma nekima ni crva sumnje ne mozes da usadis, a ne nesto drugo.

Znas kako kazu, bilo je u novinama a i na TV-u, znaci istina je...


Ovo sam davno pogledao, kao i masu drugih dokumentaraca, (zivio DC++ )

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Sto drug rece, i prodjose dani, i crni i sjajni, ali jos nesto nije sjelo mi na mjesto...
Jer necega nema, i vazda fali, i uvijek je tijesno, kad su ljudi mali....

Dali je neko gledao film? Ovdje u Njemackoj trenutno ide...

broj ispravljanja poruke: 1, zadnji put od strane nik obrisan dana 10-10-2006 u 01:23.

Tana,
'povlacim' onaj post od ranije... o broju poginulih u Iraku...

Evo americki i iracki epidemiolozi su sastavili shokantnu sliku...

radi se naime o 655 000 poginulih od 2003!

broj ispravljanja poruke: 2, zadnji put od strane Miron dana 10-12-2006 u 01:09.

covjece dragi jel ja ovo dobto citam: 655 hiljada ubijenih ljudi u iraku

svaki komentar je suvisan

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kad ce mostar mama?

steta sto mu se ne moze suditi
masovni ubica...

ko ce ga trpiti jos dvije godine
kuku nama...

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ÈETVORICI amerièkih vojnika koji su silovali i ubili 14-godišnju Iraèanku i pobili njenu obitelj, bit æe suðeno za ubojstvo, uz moguænost smrtne kazne.

Zapovjednik amerièke 101. zrakoplovne divizije, general Thomas Turner, nakon razgovora sa èasnicima zaduženima za istragu, donio je odluku prema kojoj æe vojnicima biti suðeno na vojnom sudu. Dvojica optuženih, ako ih sud proglasi krivima, mogu oèekivati smrtnu kaznu, a druga dvojica doživotnu zatvorsku kaznu bez moguænosti uvjetne.

Èetvorica optuženih su u augustu, na prijedlog Stevena D.Greenea, upali u jednu kuæu u Iraku. Dok su dvojica optuženih, Paul E. Cortez i James P. Barker, èim su upali u kuæu, zgrabili 14-godišnjakinju, skinuli je i poèeli naizmjence silovati, Green je u susjednoj sobi hladnokrvno ubio obitelj djevojèice.

"Svi su mrtvi" izjavio je kad je izašao iz sobe, odložio je automatsku pušku AK-47 "kalašnjikov" i silovao djevojèicu, dok ju je Cortez držao, a nakon toga ponovno uzeo pušku i pucao u djevojèicu. Nakon toga je otišao u kuhinju, otvorio plin i požurio ostale da izaðu iz kuæe jer æe uskoro eksplodirati.

Jesse V. Spielman, sudjelovao je u zloèinu tako što je 5-godišnju djevojèicu zgrabio i unio u kuæu, te nakon straviènog zloèina spalio odjeæu ostale trojice optuženih i bacio "kalašnjikov" u kanal.

Na sudu u Baghdadu, gdje su bili ispitivani, optuženi su se branili stresom i teškim uvjetima u kojima su kao amerièki vojnici morali živjeti.

M.È.


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